Drug Testing Horses

Clenbuterol is a drug used as bronchodilator. At times, Clenbuterol is excessively abused by the athletes and the body builders as this bronchodilator has the capability of building slender muscles and trimming down body fat.

This prescription drug is used for treating human bronchial asthma out side the US. Though it is more popular as a muscle building drug among body builders and athletes, excess use of Clenbuterol may harm the human body. Another misuse of this bronchodilator is that it is used in weight loss diet plans. Only three weeks of Clenbuterol intake will make you loose the body fat and get slender muscles. There are some side effects of Clenbuterol.

If you are taking it as a weight loss plan, then you will have to take it for six to eight weeks. Keep in mind that you are not to take it for continuous six weeks. Take it for three weeks and then take a gap of three weeks and continue like this till sixth or eighth week. You have to take Clenbuterol in this particular cycle.

When you start the Clenbuterol cycle, you start with a small dosage and increase it gradually. By the end of the week, you again decrease the dosage and finish with the low dose of Clenbuterol. If after increasing the dosage, you notice that your hands are quivering a little, stop increasing the dose. This condition will subside within 2 to 3 days. This will give you a fair idea about the highest possible dose of Clenbuterol for you.

There are different doses for men and women who plan to take Clenbuterol as part of their weight loss plan. The dosage between 20 to 40 mcg is correct for the beginning. Women should take lower dosage than men. Women may find their maximum dosage anywhere between 4o to 100 mcg whereas for men the maximum dosage will be 80 to 160 mcg. When you start gradually increasing the dosage, you might notice that your hands are little bit shaky. Do not panic though; this is because you are taking much higher dose. Reduce it by 20 to 40 mcg for next few days. Trembling also will stop within 1 or 2 days.

Some of the side effects of Clenbuterol are as follows:
Raised body temperature
Increased heart rate
Prolonged use may create lifelong complications
Risk of cardiovascular complications
Body gets used to this drug and therefore the effect stays for only 4 weeks
Loss of appetite
Insomnia, etc.

This drug is very popular amongst US athletes. Though using this drug for human consumption in US is illegal, there are many websites that make this available through internet. Clenbuterol commonly known as Clen, a bronchodilator, is generally being used as the fat burner these days.

Frequently Asked Questions

    do vets do drug tests on horses at the races?
    just for an essay im doing on what the vets main use is at horse races

    • ANSWER:
      Yes, the horses are drug-tested, but not by vets.

      The procedure for drug testing is mandated by the state racing commissions rules of racing. For example, in California, where I live, the California Horse Racing Board (CHRB) covers drug testing and medication regulation in Article 15 of the Rules of Racing: http://www.chrb.ca.gov/query_rules_and_regulations_database.asp?form_query_action=display_article&form_query_rule_number=15&form_query_rule_title=Veterinary+Practices&form_query_article=Veterinary+Practices&form_query_article_index=17&form_query_argument=15

      Pick out the relevant section you want to review and click on it, it will open up in .pdf format.

      Some states mandate PRE-race testing, which may be done by a vet. This is an attempt to prevent horses that may be in violation of state drug rules from starting in a race, the thought being that if you can identify horses that are in violation and prevent them from racing, you've best protected the wagering public. FWIW, most of the rules that regulate medications in race horses are for the protection of the wagering public, not so much for the protection of the horses or the jockeys.

      The horses that get tested are defined by the Rules. In California, "Blood and urine test samples shall be taken daily from the winner of every race, from horses finishing second and third in any stakes race with a gross purse of ,000 or more, and from not less than six or more than nine other horses designated for testing by the stewards or the official veterinarian." So the winner of every race gets tested, in stakes races the horses that place and show get tested, and the stewards pick at least six horses but not more than nine horses on the day's race card to be tested. Additionally, if the stewards have reason to suspect a horse has been illegally drugged, they can order testing of any horse stabled on the grounds at any time.

      The samples, particularly urine, aren't usually collected by a vet, although they are supposed to be collected under the supervision by a vet. Nor are the samples tested by a vet: they are sent to an approved testing lab, where the sample is split and one of the splits is tested, the other being held for re-testing if the initial test comes back positive.

      When you do your essay, you might want to note that there are drugs that are permissible on race-day, but their administration is governed by rules that specify the dosage and the "window of time" under which they are to be given. For example, the diuretic furosemide, trade-name Salix (used to be Lasix), is legal but must be administered at a specific time prior to the race. If you give it earlier than that or later than that, even by 10 minutes, the horse can be disqualified from receiving any purse money.

      Read the section of the CHRB rules that deals with drugs, and you'll get an understanding for what the rules are and how they are administered.

      If you read the weekly Steward's minutes for a race meet (This is for Santa Anita, http://www.chrb.ca.gov/stewards_minutes_sa.htmi), you will find items where a trainer is disciplined for violation of drug rules. The stewards are the people responsible for ensuring that rules are obeyed and for handing out punishments for violations.

      I hope this helps. If you have additional questions, feel free to eMail me.

    Who is allowed to drug test Horses?
    who is allowed to take the samples from the horses after the race and who watches to sample taking. then who is allowed to test the samples at the lab?

    • ANSWER:
      Here are two sites that answer all your questions about drug testing. Excellent source.



    Opinions on Drugging Horses?
    I personally have never drugged my horse or any horse. My opinion on drugging is neutral though. I don't really know what to think. Obviously drugging when people come to look at your horse for buying is horrible but, other times I think it is appropriate. What do you guys think? When is it okay to drug your horse?

    (PS: I know this is a VERY controversial topic and some people have very strong opinions about it. Please try to be polite anyway though.)
    By drugs I mean Quietex, Ace and things of that sort. Not real human drugs.
    @Gallop- I do realize they are very real drugs. When I say real human drugs I mean things like marijuana, alcohol, etc. and drugs humans use. I only went out of my way to say that because I know there are plenty of trolls on here who would say stupid things regarding substances that humans often abuse not horses. I apologize I should have been more clear :)

    • ANSWER:
      You mention Ace as not being a "real" human drug. These drugs are very real and very dangerous to be administering without the medical background to know how they function in the body. Ace is a federally regulated controlled substance requiring veterinary prescription. Quietex escapes FDA regulation by being categorized as a nutraceutical, meaning that it is not adequately researched and tested to prove it is safe or effective and earn FDA approval. Valarian root found in Quietex is an FEI banned substance for a reason, and just because a drug is not purified and FDA controlled doesn't mean it is any less a drug.
      Anyway, I never use the so-called natural herbal products or most unregulated nutraceuticals because they are not purified and controlled for safety and efficacy, None of our horses over the decades has ever been given any drug for any reason other than to treat an injury or medical condition, or to facilitate a medical procedure. Drugs have their place, but I don't believe they should be used to enhance performance or gain a competitive edge, modify behavior when training is what is needed, or to in any way perpetrate a deception for any reason.

      Add per Sabrina.............In the US it is a violation of FDA/DEA regulated federal law for your trainer/instructor to administer any prescription drug to your horse. A veterinarian can prescribe a controlled drug only to his own established client to be administered only to a horse examined by that vet and established as that vet's patient. Under federal law, the client and the vet are required to document dosages provided to the patient (horse) and keep those records on file for a period of two years following prescription. To use the prescribed drug for any other horse or for any other purpose than that which it was prescribed for is federally prohibited.

      You should never allow anyone but a vet to prescribe or administer a sedative drug to your horse.

    Are horses drug tested before a big race?
    Are there horse steroids or anything like that and do they give horses a drug test before a big race such as the Kentucky Derby?

    • ANSWER:
      These days, the horses are kept under guard.

      They are not tested before the race. Many drugs are legal for use 72 hours before the race, 48 hours, 24 hours, etc. Testing early would find some of those..and it would be still inside the legal time limit. The testing is done after the race. I do not believe that the testing on the stakes races is seriously done...after all...it would be a huge black eye if a positive was found....

      It's a long story...but..now the race tracks assign a guard to each horse..the horses that will run are kept in a separate barn where the track can keep tighter control. This really started at the Belmont this year. The winner of the Derby and the Preakness had a trainer with a huge rep for drugs..way too many positives recently. I think that the reason I'll Have Another was scratched from the Belmont (who the heck scratches from the 3rd race in the triple crown?? scratches without any injury?? HUH?) well..I think the reason was the horse was going to be under guard..and the prior performance of the horse would be suspect if he couldn't do something respectable at the Belmont. Sort of like the guy who is stealing money from his company for years...is only caught when he stops because the difference in the income of the company make people pay attention.

      Usually only the horse that wins is tested...but..often the track will decide to test the top 3, and sometimes just a random test. Sometimes, a random horse is tested an hour or two before the race...this is pretty rare...and happens only if the Stewarts have a reason to.

      All the horses racing in the Stakes races at Saratoga Springs were under guard this year...even down to the G3.

    drug test?
    so i have a drug test on the 5th (i know, right after the 4th of july.. how convenient) and i'm pretty sure i'll pass but i have some doubt.. mainly because i'll be so very screwed if i don't pass. and i really want this job.

    so i'm a girl, i'm 16, 5'3" and 105 lbs (fast metabolism), and i smoke weed maybe once a month. so the last time i did it was on 6/8. so it's almost been an entire month. i only took 2 hits but i got pretty high off of it.

    so should i start drinking alot of cranberry juice or do you think i'll be clear?
    don't talk to me about screwing my life up. i'm going to stanford sir. beat that.

    • ANSWER:
      This is a touch late, as your test is today. You should be clean enough to not show a detectable amount on a test.

      Basically, if you're stuck the only way around it is to find someone who is clean and carry their urine sample around for 1/2 a day. It's weird, but I have done it twice. What gets you caught there, is if you let it drop below or go above a certain temperature range. Chemicals/additives, don't work anymore, and they can tell if you're trying to flush your system.

      By the way, it's only illegal because the government cannot agree on a way to tax it. If it were maliciously illegal, alcohol and cigarettes would go right along with it.

      In other words, the "on the high horse" preachy stuff that you're getting, is really moot point. It is not illegal for the reasons the masses say it is. Many moons ago, everyone was saying the same crap about alcohol....Look where that got them!

    another horse drug testing question?
    an owner of a horse(competed in a race) that tested positive and high concentration for mepivacaine claimed the result is not entirely correct as he confessed to administer mepivacaine 48 hours (which is the detection time for mepivacaine) before the race, following the rules for not administering anything before the race. so is he wrong here? since the horse tested positive... is he wrong for administering the medication too close to the race even though he followed the detection time for mepivacaine? should he already know to allow withdrawal period for mepivacaine to ensure higher chances of no false positive for the drug?

    • ANSWER:
      Mepivacaine Hydrochloride is a Class 2 medication and should only be administered by a veterinarian, not an owner.

      The RMTC (Racing Medication & Testing Consortium) withdrawal guidelines for the drug vary by state to state. Only Iowa, Oregon and Canada has a 48 hour withdrawal time while major racing jurisdictions have a 69 hour to 7 day withdrawal period. Here's the guidelines per state: http://www.rmtcnet.com/withdrawal_show.asp

      Unfortunately, the withdrawal times are simply guidelines. The withdrawal times vary from horse to horse, depending on weight, age, metabolism and other factors.

      The veterinarian should be aware of this and usually records are kept for each race horse to chart withdrawal times from the drugs that are administered to them. To be on the safe side, a blood test should have been done the morning of the race to rule out a positive reading. In the future, the vet may want to allow a longer period of time between drug administration and race time.

      Unless the owner is also the trainer, ultimately, the trainer will be the one to pay the fine and suspension for the positive test. The owner will simply loose any purse money won by the horse.

      Unless the trainer wishes to appeal the ruling and have the sample (blood, urine) tested by an independent lab, there is no recourse.

    what are options to take a horse after a pre-purchase agreement while waiting for drug tests?
    I am buying a 6 YO barrel horse, all seems fine, I am having X-rays and drug tests done. Results will take 10 days. I expect the results to be negitive, but if I wait for them it will mean another 10 hour drive. I want to leave with the horse, I was thinking give him 70% down, the balance if results are negitive. Problem is I need a method to put the sellers mind at ease he will be paid. I thought about cutting the hundred dollar bills in half and send the missing half after, but that seems like a lot of work. Any Ideas??
    Henry, it's paper, it's not backed by anything but the faith in the government. Faith is one thing lacking in Washington. The real threat to the US money supply is all the pennies and change jars in America. Cost 3 cents to mint a penny. People that care would take those in.
    yes X-rays and all the rest will be done just the drugs would need to come back

    • ANSWER:
      You will have to discuss it with the seller to see whether they would agree to partial payment. Personally I wouldn't let a horse leave without full payment unless selling to someone I knew well. In your situation I would probably pay in full but take a receipt stating that if anything comes up on the blood tests or x-rays you are entitled to a refund.

      Another point, I am assuming you would have had a full vet check done at the time x-rays and bloods were taken? I probably wouldn't want to leave the horse in the sellers care for too long after the vetting because if the horse gets injured in those 10 days or does something you don't know about, it could cause more problems... but maybe I'm just being paranoid!

      Good luck with getting your new horse

      Edit to add: If you are just waiting for bloods I'll just make a point to put it in perspective a bit. I'm in the UK and it's fairly common to get bloods taken at a vetting, kept by the vet but not actually tested unless a problem arises later and the purchaser has reason to think the horse was drugged - like sudden behavioural changes or sudden lameness. I have had every horse we've bought 5 stage vetted, bloods taken but have never had to test them. Hence why if in your position I would pay up, take the horse, get a reciept and assume all will be ok!

    Testing Horses For Drugs?
    why test them in the first place. if any1 has sources on animal rights or ethical reasons, that would be great. im writing an essay and cant find and good sources

    • ANSWER:
      Racehorses are drug tested for both concerns about animal rights and competitive fairness. I owned horses for twenty years and every time my horse (or any one else's, for that matter) won a race, an official came up and clipped a small tag like a key chain fob to his bridle. Sometimes it happens when the horse runs second or third and occasionally out of the money. This tag means you need to lead the horse to the test barn. So you head to the test barn and when you get there you are permitted to cool your horse out by walking him around in a circle or more often on a mechanized horse-walker. Once cooled out you can give your horse a drink and then he's led into a dark stall where there's a track employee (almost always a gal) holding a cup attached to a long stick. The horse still wants to walk around usually in a circle, while the gal with the stick stands in the center of the stall whistling (I'm not kidding!) waiting for your horse to urinate. When the horse begins to urinate the gal collects it in the cup, pours it into a sealed specimen container and it's sent to the lab for analysis. The owner of the horse doesn't get his share of the purse money until the results come back clean. When I owned horses, the sample was usually big enough to test for up to eight different illegal substances. Owners and trainers never knew which drugs were being tested for and it varied among the known performance enhancers.

      I described the process to show that drug testing for horses is neither invasive nor painful. The horse racing industry has had drug testing long before any other professional sport. The reason is to keep racing honest and protect the horse. Giving horses illegal drugs is not only cheating, but can also be dangerous. Some of the banned substances aren't performance enhancers but pain killers. If a horse runs with an injury and doesn't feel pain he's liable to injure himself.

      When a trainer's horse has been determined to have run under the influence of an illegal substance he's subject to disciplinary action, from temporary suspension (first offense) to having his training license revoked (subsequent offenses). During suspension, the owners of the horses he trains need to find another trainer. Many states have reciprocal agreements that keep a trainer that has been barred from racing in one state from being licensed in a neighboring state. A trainer does NOT want to get a bad test result--it's bad for business.

      For sources on the subject, contact the board of horse racing in your state (they're in the phone book where I come from) and tell them what you're working on. They might send you the rule book for racing in your state. You may have to contact a particular racetrack for this information, but I doubt they'll turn you down. Ask for the racing director or his or her secretary.

      If the premise of your essay is that drug testing is wrong ethically or in the interest of animal rights, you're going to find the opposite the more research you do.

    Why do a horse drug test?
    I've heard of drug testing race horses, and other showing horse, but what would be the point of someone wanting to drug test a new horse they are getting? The owner of the barn my friends horse is going to said she wants to drug test the horse when he gets there upon arrival, and she's never seen or ridden him. Why would she want to do that? I know she might think that he'd been sedated to seem calm, but there's no need to do that. I'm just curious as to why she wants/needs to do it.

    • ANSWER:
      Many horse traders (or even trainers that need to move a crazy horse) will use a sedative like Ace to make a horse seem calm. It is very hard to pin down that the horse was sedated because you have to drug test the horse within the day you saw it. Most vet checks are not the same day, so this is not practical. I agree with your friend to drug test the horse that she's looking at. I have a feeling that my mare was drugged when I went to see her. She was much calmer than when I brought her home, and she had a bad habit of bolting that showed up mysteriously once I get her away from the sale barn. If you are going to spend more than ,000 I'd get a drug test. Especially if it's going to be a kid's horse or a show horse. A horse is an investment and you don't want to get a crazy one. Once you get a nutcase the only way to sell it is to waste time and money to reform it, or to drug it and dope someone else. It can be a pretty vicious circle.

    Flaxseed horse drug test?
    Would flaxseed do anything (or show up as anything negative) on a horses drug test? (Kind of like how people say to not eat anything with poppy seeds if your going to get drug tested)

    • ANSWER:
      I really doubt it. So many people use this for the coat (people showing especially) If it showed up in drug tests it wouldn't be sold at local feed stores next to your grains and sweet feeds.

    Marijuanilla drug test!!?
    I have a drug test comeing up and just wondering how long will it take to leave my system this was my 4th time in like 2 months of doing it. Took 3 or 4 good hits. Ppl say it stays in ur fat cells. I'm not really skinny I weigh 210. Ppl also say ur supposed to swear it out. I'm not super active either. I was drinking tons of water like 3 or 4 huge cups a day and I've been peeing like a horse lol. Just curious when will I be clean and Abel to go for the test!!!

    • ANSWER:
      it doesnt seem like you smoke very often, not knowing how far away the test is from when you smoked is vague though, im much smaller than you weight wise and my test was 6 days after i smoked and i passed, personally i think its just up to luck, just keep drinking and hope that you pass. good luck!

    Why are there no drug tests in horse racing?
    Did you know there is absolutely NO drug testing for steroids in horse racing? I know many trainers and they see the performance enhancing drugs getting way out of hand.
    .....And you thought baseball had major drug problems??

    • ANSWER:
      I worked on the Race Track for over 5 years in the Stakes Barn doing Security, horses were in fact tested before major races, sometimes some were singled out for a race and sometimes they drew blood on the entire group, it was totally up to the Track vets who they wanted to check but also they do spit test on the winner after the race to see if any substance show up in there urine. But that is usual only done for the winner/
      But the Track that I worked on in Kentucky they can do a test when ever they desire if they have any doubt about what might be going on.

    Olympic Drug Testing?
    With the 2012 London Olympic approaching us,n and 2014 not far off, I have a question about drug testing.
    Athletes train hard, and when they get to the Games, I'm sure they can be strained even more so, especially is competing in more than one event.

    That being said, are athletes able to take tylenol and the likes during the competition? Or would that show up on their drug screening and result in disqualification?

    • ANSWER:
      Under IOC rules, athletes can take certain non-prescription and prescription drugs, as long as they are able to produce documentation which clearly states that the medication is being used for a legitimate therapeutic purpose. A similar rule exists for the EQUINE athletes ( horses which are ridden in the equestrian portion of the games) where medications are concerned. As long as the trainer, rider, and owner(s) of a given horse are able to produce documentation from a licensed vet which indicates what the medications are being used for and that such use is therapeutic, then medications are permitted.

    test riding horses??????
    i am looking into buying my first horse, and i was wondering if only having 1-2 test rides is enough before buying the horse.And is there some type of rule if you dont like the horse you can return in within 30 days or something.

    • ANSWER:
      Lol we all only wish horses came with a 30 day guarantee!

      Most people will request at least one video of the horse, showing walk, trot, canter in both directions as well as any advertised fancy buttons (if the horse is supposed to jump, have lead changes or show multiple disciplines then all those things should be shown.). Have an instructor or trainer watch the video with you and also have them evaluate still shots (no tack except a halter, from both sides, front and back) for confirmation. Any seller that is not willing to provide these things is either a) craigslist backyard seller and has no clue--be careful! or b) hiding something.

      You should have an idea from the second you get on the horse if it's a good fit. Take your time on the test ride, try all three gaits, transitions and ask the owner to be in the ring with you giving you suggestions (anything special he responds to? Any odd cues? Is he usually stiffer on this side and what can I do to loosen it?). Try those fancy things he was advertised with. Don't let the owners hustle you through a 15 minute ride. Bring someone with you who can evaluate from the ground and videotape that ride if possible (obviously, ok this with the owners first!), preferably your instructor.

      If you like him, make sure you insist on a vet check. General rule is that you pay for it, but joint x-rays and flex tests now could save you a heckuvalot down the road if he's got a chronic condition they're not telling you about. Make sure he's up to date on all vaccines and coggins and they have the paperwork to prove it.

      As for the 30 day thing, many owners, especially in this economy, will let you talk them into a 30 day trial. Say you really like the horse, but you want to be absolutely certain you'll work well together and you'd really like to try him for 30 days. (this becomes harder the further away the horse is) Usually the deal I cut is that you put it all down in writing (this is important! I had someone break a sale bargain once and not pay me for a horse for 4 years. Without a contract, there's nothing I can do to make her pay).

      You are essentially leasing the horse for 30 days. I say I give them half payment as a refundable security deposit OR a month's lease fee as non-refundable (if I like him, it goes toward the sale, if not, they get the lease fees for a month), their choice. I pay for transport of the horse and his expenses during this time. They keep his papers in their name until the sale goes through. (if you want to show him during this time and they're ok with that, bargain to transfer the title to you, but let them keep a signed transfer of ownership from you, so if you do steal the horse, they can easily swap it back to their name and show the contract you broke!) Meet with them face to face after 30 days to finalize the contract and sign a legit bill of sale. Make sure you get his papers that day as you hand over the check (let them ahead of time that you expect this) or you will likely never get them at all.

      Obviously a 30 day trial is to see if you guys will get along long term, if he'll fit in your stabling situation, etc, but mostly it's to check that he's not been drugged when you test rode. If they don't agree to a 30 day trial and you like him, but think he was suspiciously well behaved/dull, insist on having a drug test added to your vet check.

      Hope that helps and good luck!

    What issue of horse racing should I do?
    I was wondering, I have to do a final project speech for one of my classes, and I've decided to do it on horse racing. I'm trying to prove the point that either 1) Horses should not be run at 2 or 2) That things such as steroids and other performance enhancing drugs should not be used in racing.

    Which one should I do? (Now, please before you go off on me and say I'm trying to say racing is bad and evil or whatever, I'm not. I'm for horse racing, I just think it should be done under better conditions without the drugs or having the horses race when they are older.)

    It's for high school.

    As far as the performance enhancing drugs go, I wanted to just do steroids in particular.

    • ANSWER:
      well, it is illegal to use performance enhancing drugs. any horse who wins, and lots of time the horse who places 2nd as well have their urine and blood tested immediately after racing. Also they have random pre-race blood draws as well, to help prevent the use of drugs in racehorses.

      so i would definatly write about the ages in which they're started to race.

      I love harness racing, and the horses do as well. they really love their job. but i also feel most any racehorse is started, trained, and raced too early for their own good. the speeds asked of these young horses are detrimental to their well being. most racehorses dont hit their lifetime mark (record) until the age of 5-7 anyways, when theyre older and stronger. so i would love to see them grow up before entering a racing career. I've seen a lot of owners and trainers at the track get mad when their 3 y/o is put in a race with older horses. because usually the young horse has little to no chance at winning or even coming close.

      I've seen 4 year old horses who have to have almost every joint injected to stay sound. that would be a lot less likely if they hadnt been raced until at least 4.

      the current rule amongst thoroughbred racing in the US is that a horse must break maiden (win a race) before the age of 4 to be eligible for a racing career. that is a rule i would love to see eliminated. I wish they would wait until at least 4 to enter their first race, and would like the age to go by their actual birth date rather than Jan 1st.

      I love racing and so do the horses, i have been a part of it first hand, and the horses know when they win and when they totally blow it. they enjoy it just as much as any pleasure horse loves a trail ride. I would like to see a lot done in the effort of changing the ages in which horses are trained and able to compete in racing. people are very weary of adopting retired racehorses because they have a reputation for being lame. which wouldnt be the case if they were stated later in years.

      a lot of people claim that racehorses are abused and improperly handled witch yes just like ANY equine some are, but that is very far from the norm. Most racehorses are treated like kings, and are very well cared for and loved. so yes i feel the issue you should write about is the age in which they are started and raced.

      racehorses arent the only horses started at 2 years old and younger. it is common in many equine sports and it is a real problem for the horses.

      here is an article that will provide you with a ton of facts proving why horses shouldnt be raced or even ridden before 4 years old.


      you dont know what youre talking about. first of all good luck steering and controlling a horse thats running from fear with a cart attached to it in the midst of 7 to 9 other "scared" horses with carts attached to them as well. they arent frickin scared theyve been trained to do their job and they like to do it just like any other horse looks forward to their job. second, how many horses have you taken to the track? because i did it 4 nights a week for 2 years and can say without a doubt the horses, love it. they know when they win, and any good racehorse wants to. horses die from injuries in the pasture, so dont single out racing like its the only equine sport that should be scrutinized. there are issues and training methods in EVERY discipline that need to be addressed and changed for the good of the horses.

    blood drug testing!! help!!?
    Okay, so my mom went through my myspace today because I forgot to log off. And in my messages, I was talking about how I had done valium recently, smoked week a couple times, ect. So in a nutshell, she found out I had been doing drugs (I'm really stopping good for now so please don't preach at me). In the messages I didn't state how many times I had actually done each one of them, but when she asked me, I told her I had only smoked weed once and taken 4 valium all together (when in reality I had smoked probably 4-5 within the last month and 1/2). The irony of this all is that actually yesterday I had to go in for my yearly blood test so they could check my thyroid, cholesterol, ect, but my my just threatened me telling me that she was going to call the clinic and tell them to run a drug screening also, to make sure I wasn't lying and that maybe I was taking other drugs as well. Thats not what I'm worried about though, I'm just worried about her really seeing how much is really in my system. How much do blood tests show? Will it show everything I've done in the last 2 months or only what i've done in the last 2 weeks? Please help! (please don't go on about how I should have just told the truth in the first place, it was already really humiliating for me and i just told her what popped into my head first) THANK YOU!!

    • ANSWER:
      "The length of time any drug (illicit or prescribed) stays in your system will vary. In large part, it depends on your physiological makeup (e.g., your physical height, weight, your amount of body fat, your age, current state of health, whether or not you exercise mildly-aggressively-or at all). Whether or not you are undergoing any degree of stress (i.e., your "state of mind") at the time you ingest drugs can play a part as well.

      Still other considerations include your "frequency" of use (1x per day? 3-5x per day?), the "quantity" of drug you used each time, and the "length of time" (days? weeks? months?) of your consistent drug-use prior to your drug test. Even the quality ("potency") of the drug you ingest determines "how long" the drug is detectable in your system when your urine is analyzed (tested) at the lab.

      However, for most people, detectable levels (i.e., shows up as a "positive" in a laboratory drug test) of the following drugs stay in the body for these approximate periods of time."

      Alcohol (Beer, Booze, Hooch, Liquor, Wine), 1 hour to perhaps 10 or 12 hours (Yes, alcohol IS a drug! Drinking more than "in moderation" can lead to alcohol (drug) abuse...and perhaps alcoholism. During 2002, more than 18,000 people in the U.S. were killed by too-boozed-up DRUNK drivers! DON'T BE ONE OF THEM THIS YEAR!) CLICK HERE for more information about alcohol abuse and alcoholism.

      Amphetamines (Biphetamine, Black Beauties, Crosses, Dexedrine, Hearts), 1-2 days

      Anabolic steroids (Stanzolol, Stanazolol, Nandrolene; Steroids, Roids, Juice), oral- up to 3 weeks; injected- up to 3-6 months and more

      Barbituates (Amytal, Nembutal, Seconal, Phenobarbital; Barbs), 2-3 days

      Benzodiazepines (e.g., Ativan, Halcion, Librium, Rohypnol, Valium; Roofies, Tranks, Xanax), most, 2-3 days; a few, 4-8 days

      Cocaine (Candy, Coke, Crack, Flake, Rocks, Snow, Whitecoat), (Candy, Coke, Crack, Flake, Rocks, Snow, Whitecoat), 1-2 days

      Codeine (e.g., Fiorinal w/codeine, Robitussin A-C, Empirin w/codeine, Tylenol w/codeine, 1-2 days

      GHB (G, Grievous Bodily Harm, Goob, Liquid Ecstasy, Liquid X), 1-2 days

      Heroin (Horse, Smack), 1-2 days

      Inhalants, just a few hours

      Ketamine (K, Kit Kat, Special K, Vitamin K), 2-4 days

      LSD (Acid, Blotter, Microdot, Yellow sunshine), a few hours or up to 5 days

      Marijuana (Bud, Blunt, Grass, Herb, Pot, Reefer, Sinsemilla, Smoke, Weed), 2-5 days (the daily, heavy user can sometimes be detected up to 30+ days)

      MDMA (Ecstasy), 1-5 days

      Methadone, 1-7 days

      Methamphetamines (Crank, Crystal, Desoxyn, Glass, Ice, Speed), 2-4 days

      Methaqualone (Ludes, Quaaludes), 10-15 days

      Nicotine (Cigarettes, Cigars, Habitrol patch, Nicorette gum, Nicotrol spray, Prostep patch; Smokeless tobacco, Snuff, Spit tobacco), 1-2 days

      Opiates (i.e., Opium: China, Dreams, Laudanum, Paregoric; Dover's Powder), 1-2 days

      Oxycodone (OxyContin, Percolone, Roxicodone), 1-2 days

      PCP (Angel Dust, Boat, Hog, Love Boat), 1-8 days

      Basically, a blood test is just going to show if you have done drugs or now. The test can't tell how much you have done.

      If you only did the drugs a few times a couple of months ago, nothing is going to show up. But if you have a serious problem and you were doing the drugs multiple times EVERYDAY, then you can still get a positive reading on a drug test even a month later because the drugs will stay present in the system of a chronic user.

      I really wouldn't worry about what you think your mom is going to find. If you didn't do any drugs about 2 weeks before your blood test, then the chances that they will find something will be a very slim chance.

    Why aren't all race horses tested for drugs after a race?

    • ANSWER:
      New York racing authorities are authorized to conduct unannounced drug testing of horses that are expected to compete at tracks in the state even when they are stabled at farms away from those tracks. They feel since random testing is key, since one never knows if they will be tested or not keeps them clean. After each race, the stewards, who are responsible for enforcing the rules of racing, select a group of horses to be tested. Not all competitors are tested; some are tested based on finish in the race - for example, the race winner - others may be tested at random. Anytime an equine athlete displays an unexpectedly poor (or superior) performance based on its previous racing record, it too may be tested. Horses designated for testing are immediately led to the test barn, where they give a urine and/or blood sample. The numbered, dated, sealed samples are held in a secure place until they are transported by a bonded courier to the testing lab.

      Although costly, there's more drug testing than we think. Last year the NYRA Expanded in-house drug testing, see link for more..



    Probation Drug Testing Help!?
    I know drinking water is good for passing a drug test, but does it matter how long before the test you start drinking alot of water? For instance, would it make a difference if ive been pissing like a race horse for 1 week straight? or is it the same if i did it 2 days before the test....i just wanna know that i havent been drinking a shit load of water for 2 weeks for nothing.

    • ANSWER:
      What you're talking about is flushing your system with water. The main idea is that you drink enough water that your test results are so diluted that they cannot detect any drugs in your urine. Exactly how much water it takes for this to work depends on you. If you are a bigger person, you'll need more water. Smaller, maybe less. But you'll still need to drink in the order of several glasses of water within a short amount of time. The main thing is that when you take the pee test, you pee into the toilet for the first 2-3 seconds then don't finish in the bottle either. So the beginning and end of your stream is what you want to avoid being tested.

      But this is by no means full proof. You're not actually passing your drug test. You're just basically handing them a jar of water you happened to have passed through your body. This means your test results will come back as "flushed" or what we call "not negative". Depending on your PO and situation, sometimes getting a test result that is flushed is just as bad as getting one that is hot because you look like you are trying to hide your drug use. Truth is even if you drink your 8-10 cups of water a day, you should still be able to pass (or fail) a standard UA.

      Drinking water like that won't get the drug out of your system faster. Especially for marijuana. THC from weed is not just in your urine. Its in your blood, its in your hair, your fat, your saliva and so its constantly being passed through your kidneys, which means you constantly are getting some of that THC in your urine. Drinking water dilutes how consentrated the THC is in your urine. And if you drink enough water, you might as well as just hand them a glass of really warm water because they can't test it accurately for drugs - hence why you will seem to be hiding something.

      If you use an herbal detox tea, as directly, that is your best bet. Short of that, the only way you cannot fail a drug test is if you don't use them. It sounds like you don't actually have this test for another two weeks, weed usually takes about 2 weeks to clear out of your system naturally. So just don't use again. Preferably until you are at least off probation. Because the last thing you want is to get regressed for a little weed (or whatever you're on).

    AM I goin FAIL my drug TEST?? (My life will be F-ed UP!!)?
    I'm prescribed 60mg of xanax a month, say if i take 1mg klonopin a few days before my drug test, will I fail it for the klonopin? I am in drug court and take my test at a Lab. Whats the time span that the klonos will be out of my system... like how much it would take to fail, ETC. Just give me some info here!
    (don't say just don't take it at all okay, it'll be a waste of time kay? ha)
    @ Mark XI... Because I get free klonopin... and the xanax I am prescribed is not enough for recreational use. ( DONT GIVE ME ANY SHIT ABOUT I SHOULDNT DO IT... :):) ) But... yeah. JW. Do the tests test for individual benzos or just benzos period?

    • ANSWER:
      Drug tests only go for the pharmacophore- the basic molecular skeleton all drugs within a certain class have in common. A few days after the test, you'll get a call from someone at the lab asking you if your on [insert laundry list of benzo's here]? You'll say yes to the Xanax , and they'll ask for the prescription information so they can verify it with the pharmacy.

      The clonazepam will slip under the radar, thanks to the Trojan Alprazolam Horse.

    Why are steroids legal for horses like Barbaro and not for human athletes?
    I'm positive that if Barbaro wasn't all roided up like Bonds at a weightlifting competition I believe he wouldn't have shattered his leg. I mean the horse wasn't jumping or being hit with a baseball bat, he was just running in a race. Why is it legal to pump up those horses and not legal to pump up a human who does the same thing-race?

    • ANSWER:
      The use of drugs and the amounts of drugs in horses is regulated in horse racing. The drugs that are approved are only supposed to be administered by the track vets. The first and second place horses are drug tested for illegal drugs and high levels of approved drugs. A trainer who gets caught with illegal drugs or high levels of approved drugs are subject to high dollar fines, suspension of license, or even get their license revoked. You don't find that many trainers that abuse the use of drugs in horses. People who use steriods abuse them to the point that they are illegal. Drugs that are performance enhancing drugs are not allowed in horse racing. Horses can have Bute, Lasix and some other drugs are acceptable as long as they are not performance enhancers.

    Does the Lincoln Tech in NY drug test?
    I'm just curious if anyone who has gone there before has been drug tested. My boyfriend says he did, but I don't believe him. I haven't been able to find out any information online. THANKS! :*

    • ANSWER:
      If you have nothing to hide in a drug test, what difference does it make? If you do have something to hide from taking a drug test, get some help.

      If you simply feel it is wrong to force students to take a drug test, protest.

      If you want the truth, call them and get the answer straight from the horses mouth.

    what drugs do they give horses for races?
    i am doing a paper on it in class and need your help

    • ANSWER:
      If you mean illegal drugs -- you will never find a list of those because trainers that engage in that action keep their secrets well-hidden, and they are always looking for a new one that they can slip by the test barn with. I know a few of them but suffice to say that they include different forms of amphetamines, painkillers, sedatives, etc. Cocaine is NEVER used, as any drug that ends in 'aine' will test big time! Neither is Meth, although there are varous other forms of amphetamines that do the same thing. Truth is, most racehorses benefit far more from calming potions than from hop. The drugs that are legal vary by state, racing juristiction and even country. In most US states Lasix(a diuretic which drops blood pressure and decreases bleeding from the lungs in most horses, and also lowers the horse's body weight so it is actually lighter and therefore faster), Banamine (an anti-inflamatory), and Butazolidin (an anti-inflamatory), are legal if given according to racing commission rules. For instance, in most states Banamine and Bute can be given no closer than 24 hours pre-race and only in an allowed amount. The time for withdrawel and dosage is based on the idea that it should be given therapeutically only, and not in a high enough concentration that it can mask pain during competition, which could endanger the horse(and rider of course). That said, the penalties for having a high Bute/Banamine test are only minor fines, that increase with each occurance, and then a suspension and/or disqualification of the horse after so many. Many trainers just work around that allowable number, as you've heard recently in the news(not naming any names). In any case, in most states you can give up to double the legal amount of Bute and as long as the horse pees in the test barn, you can get away with it -- plain and simple. The high level will only show up in a post-race blood test. If a trainer knows his/her horse will pee, they will usually take their chances. If the horse habitually doesn't pee after an hour or so at the test barn, or is in a later race on the program and the test barn crew is apt to pull blood instead of waiting around all night for urine - they usually play it safe and stick close to the legal dose and time of administration. A small percentage of the major racing facilities test blood, urine and saliva - so trainers there have far less leeway. Lasix is legally given only at a set dosage and only at 4 hours pre-race, but at tracks where there is no receiving barn where officials watch the horses in the hours before a race, vets and trainers frequently give more or less than the legal dose, or split it by giving part at 4 hours and the rest closer to the race. This empties the horse out even further, which can benefit some horses with bleeding, and it also helps mask or dilute other drugs that may have been given. A LOT of cortisone is used too, although it is only legal in trace amounts on race day. There are several (Dexamethazone, Voren, etc.), and they are all very therapeutic anti-inflamatories if used judiciously, but they are also one of the most abused classes of drugs at the racetrack. Besides their anti-inflamatory properties, trainers use to give Dex a few hours before a race for its added benefit of calming horses down. Here in the Northwest they stiffened their regulations a few years back so that you can't use it closer than 24 hours pre-race now. These are just a few of the more commonly used, legal - but regulated drugs.

      add: Vicki J -- Dutrow didn't get 'caught' giving Winstrol V, he brazenly boasted about it to the press because 1) It was perfectly legal at the time, and 2) He was so high on Big Brown that he didn't think anything he did or didn't do to/for the horse could get him beat. For the record -- I'm kind of glad he shot his mouth off like he did. Although I wanted to see BB win the triple crown as much as anybody else, his drastic deterioration in form after withdrawing from anabolics was a great wake-up call for the industry. Outlawing Winstrol, Equipoise, etc., will even the playing field for a lot of owners and trainers (not to mention cutting down their vet bills), and help to re-set the standards of the breeding industry. No offense, but you haven't been to many racetracks if you think Lasix is the only medication horses can legally run on.

      Add: Yes, and so am I Vicki J. Go to the link posted by Racing Fan and you will see that there are several other NSAIDs besides Bute that are perfectly legal to run on in California. Not trying to pick a fight with you - I appreciate the fact that you are such a fan of racing. You guys are the ones that pay the purses - but there are some things that you can only know from living the life....

    Marijuanilla and drug testing!?
    Just wondering when this stuff will be out of my systems so I can go take a pee test. A few weeks ago me and a few friends were smokeing and I have to go for a drug test soon. I know that the drug stays in ur fat cells and I'm not skinny lol I weigh 210 and I'm no super active i am a little bit. I've been drinking water lately and peeing like a horse so if that helps plz do tell me: just looking for a way to pass my drug test here!!!!

    • ANSWER:
      Marijuana has a half-life in your system. How long it takes to leave your system depends on how much you smoke. But the time maxes out at around 45 days. One smoking session for someone with a clean system takes about 3-4 days to be clean. Smoke 2 days later and then have to wait about a week, and so on. The time it will take roughly doubles every time you smoke until it maxes at about 45 days to be clean. So if you are maxed out and you wait about 2 weeks and then smoke again, you're basically back to 45 days.
      Marijuana can be detected in urine for nearly a week after smoking. Blood tests can be more accurate, and it might take a month to be totally clear. Hair tests show every drug ever taken when that hair was growing - this is why you see so many drug addicts with shaved heads or buzz cuts, by the way. Also by the way: taking laxatives and drinking wacky chemicals won't "cheat" a drug test. It will just make you go to the bathroom! These drug tests are designed by experts who anticipate what the drug user might do.

      Be very careful of "remedies" for getting around drug tests. They flat out do not work and could do damage to your body.

    Do they test the horses that compete in the equstrian sport for drugs?
    I don't know. Drugs that make them run faster or not get tired easily?

    • ANSWER:
      yea some horses got busted for doping today, stupid owners trying to get away for it.

      The horses are treated like people, each one even has its own passport, papers describing their origin, city of birth, owners, etc.

      They get tested daily, food is checked, and blood tests.

      I feel sorry for the horses who get drugged, they have no control over their lives

    Which discipline is the roughest on a horse?
    I know that every activity a horse does causes wear and tear to it's body of time. I was just curious out of all the disciplines out there over time which one seems to come with the most problems for the horse. Of course the good horse people out there do there best to keep their horses happy and healthy but even with joint supplements, chiropractor visits, and protective gear there is still damage done to their joints and such over time. I would think things like trail riding, through fields and such not rocks and hills, would be on of the easier things and then things like jumping would cause the most strain on the joints.
    So in either your opinion or maybe you know of a published study that would give us some insight.
    Oh and if possible if you could break it down even more like instead of saying gymkhana or jumping you could say which part like barrels or hunters. All info is appreciated thanks

    • ANSWER:
      @Freedom, there is no such thing as a drug that makes a horse run faster. Drugs that mask pain enabling the horse to achieve a faster speed is possible, but most trainers dont attempt such actions as racehorses are randomly blood tested prior to racing. The winner of a race, and at some tracks the horse who comes in 2nd have blood and urine testing, so if you plan on actually winning races, its rather stupid to use chemicals to help achieve the win as it will be taken away and the trainer gets fined and suspended. Either way, drugs may help a horse perform at a level closer to its potential, but it is not going to make a horse go any faster than it could if it were sound without drugs. Its not like adding a turbo chip to a stock car.

      ANyways to answer the question, I feel it depends on how you look at it. A gallop through a field may be murder on a saddlebred who has been trained saddleseat and is wearing a show shoeing package, yet the training an ASB receives to show saddleseat would be murder on a QH.

      Asking racing speeds of a young horse is hard on them and so is jumping, cutting reining, advanced dressage, but properly managed horses arent traveling at those speeds, jumping, cutting cows, and doing advanced maneuvers on a day to day basis.

      So to me the roughest thing on a horse is ignorance. The easiest task for a trained horse with an experienced rider in one discipline, can be lethal for a horse and rider trained to a different discipline. Its when someone gets that wild hair to do something different without actually learning how to do it, or insisting their horse do something it isnt meant to do, jumping a draft, riding a mini, trying to drive a trail horse who has never been driven, trying to trail ride a driving horse who has never been ridden, deciding you can jump your horse because you watched it on youtube and only the high jumps hurt. people who shouldnt own horses without the supervision of a barn manager with posted rules and a big mouth. They dont know how to handle, ride, feed, or maintain their animals in a proper fashion. I have no hate for any discipline really, (other than big lick). The people I dont like are the people who are too lazy to learn a discipline, the ones who decided they didnt need to be taught. Riding is easy right, so is buying a horse from a BYB.

      People who think they can just move to the country buy a horse put up a shed, and then learn how to ride it. Never learn how to properly take care of it. Because it doesnt die within a month like a puppy would if you didnt care for it, they think theyre doing fine. I cant stand old timers who think horses need to be broke at 2 and vets and farriers are optional. so to me ignorance is far rougher than any organized discipline.

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